I linked to a positive review of the new Star Wars by Brad Torgersen in my last round-up and over at File770 I was discussing John C Wright’s negative review.
There seems to be a real difference of opinion on the film that divides between Sad and Rabid and I’m wondering to what extent a major SF event such as Star Wars says about SF as a whole. To that end I hopped into my memetic boat, put the cat into a life-vest and set sail again.
[Inspired by a comment I saw on File770 about a reasonable person blogging on a site aligned with Rabid Puppies]
Scene: The grounds of Felapton towers.
Camestros is sitting in the shade of a near by tree reading Aristotle for Dummies.
Enter Timothy the talking cat with a bundle of string, a nail gun and some blanks in a special cat adapted wheel-barrow. The Wheel-barrow is painted in camouflage colors.
[Camestros] Ah Timothy, off on some project I see. I do hope you are not attempting to build a barricade in front of the WI hall again?
[Timothy] Not at all. I have put that whole terrible incident behind me. No, today I am building a bridge.
[Camestros] Capital idea young Timothy. A bridge over the platypus pond would be a welcome addition to the house.
[Timothy] I’m actually going to put it over the other pond.
[Camestros] Which other pond?
[Timothy] The long thinny sort of pond that goes round and round.
[Camestros] You are making even less sense than usual. Wait…do you mean the moat?
[Timothy] Yes, yes. The long thinny, round and round moat pond. I’m going to build a bridge to fields on the south.
[Camestros] the south field?
[Timothy] Yes indeed.
[Camestros] The south field that is currently home to a horde of hungry hydrophobic zombies.
[Timothy] That’s the one.
[Camestros] The south field full of hungry hyrdophobic zombies which led us to build a giant moat around Felapton Towers precisely so we wouldn’t get gnawed alive?
[Timothy] Are you trying to make some sort of obscure point?
[Camestros] Well only the point that building bridges between communities maybe a laudable aim in most circumstances, doing so to a field of very angry undead monsters may be taking an ethical imperative to a less than apt conclusion.
[Timothy] Oh, you’re just so insular and cliquey.
[Disclaimer: the views expressed are purely those of Timothy the talking cat. No pejorative conclusions should be drawn about hydrophobic zombies, many of whom are quite lovely people I’m sure]
Well, more of a discussion than a debate. I was going to start with a boxing metaphor but I know so little about boxing that it was never going to be sustainable. EIther way here is the background so that this post is intelligible in the future.
El Sandifer: author of a notable blog that covers: posts on Game of Thrones; a long serialized history of the careers of Alan Moore and Grant Morrison called The Last War in Albion; a series of posts about 1990s Nintendo games; and, most famously, The Tardis Eruditorium – a historico-cultural look at Doctor Who in the context of the society that was watching it. Sandifer’s interest are the occult, Willliam Blake, popular culture and here is firmly of the left. She has written too major posts on the Sad/Rabid Puppy controversy: The Day Fandom Ended and the longer Guided By The Beauty of Their Weapons. Sandifer has advocated a blanket No Award in all categories for the 2015 Hugo Awards.
Vox Day/Theodore Beale: also an author of a notable blog as well as owner and chief editor of Catsalia House. Day (his name as an author) has made many controversial statements on his blog which pitches itself at a right wing audience and the most polite description I can give is “contrarian”. Notable for saying things which appear to be him saying one thing but which contain interesting conditionals which imply he isn’t saying what he appears to be saying. Vox Day had previously been nominated for a Hugo in an earlier iteration of sad Puppies and in the current kerfuffle was the mind behind the Rabid Puppies campaign.
Notably Sandifer has been quite overt in her attacks on Vox Day’s politics. She has referred to the Rabid Puppy success at gaming the Hugo nominations as a “neofascist” takeover. Sandifer also believes, at least to some extent, in a ‘No Platform’ policy toward racists and fascists. Consequently a live discussion between outspoken rightist Day and outspoken leftist Sandifer sounds like a recipe for fireworks. Continue reading “The Sandifer-Day Debate: updated”