Star Trek Discovery: That Hope is You – Part 2 (S3E13)

Discovery pulls off another of its space action finales in what I felt was a satisfying (except in one aspect) end. There were lots of emotional moments, in particular I’m a sucker for heroic deaths of cute robots but there were lots of other tear-jerking scenes particularly for the Hugh-Paul-Adira-Gray family. It’s a finale though, so spoilers follower.

I’ll start with what I’m less than happy with, which is at the end Michael becomes captain (deserved narratively if not realistically) which I’m OK with but only because Saru had left to return to his home planet. That I am not happy with. I’ll let it go though. If there is a season 4, we’ll see how things go.

As I’m starting with dislikes, I wish the ‘you must confront the traumatic event in your past to move on’ trope would die a horrible death. It won’t though as it is tied to multiple genres including the haunted house trope of the restless spirit that must find peace. Oddly, I hadn’t thought of the holodeck environment of the Kelpian spaceship as a haunted house, despite the ruins and the spooky monster but the ghost story aspect was a little stronger this time.

There was an interesting set of layers about what is genuine and what is depiction in the holodeck scenes: Saru being the real Doug Jones, to be revealed once the illusion was shattered to be ‘really’ a Kelpian. Gray also had some interesting layers here, ‘real’ in the holodeck but that illusion was because they are real as a person and not just a figment of Adira’s grief. Hugh’s vow that they would find a way that Gray could be seen by everybody another way of affirming reality.

Michael’s plan to sabotage the nacelles? No, I didn’t get it either and the implication was that it was a suicide mission was sharply at odds with her motives. It did give the bridge crew some heroic moment time and everybody survived except the little robot (sob) but they got better later (yay).

Overall a very Olatunde Osunsanmi episode. Lots of pew-pew woosh bang but with some real heart to it. Anthony Rapp didn’t get as many big acting moments as he did in the previous episode but I thought his expressions with regard to Michael after the climax were pitch perfect. You were left with no doubt that he hasn’t forgiven her and that he is will continue not to forgive while being utterly professional about it.

So where are we? New uniforms and a new captain. Discovery has spent three seasons rejecting the idea that the main character in Star Trek has to be the captain and has conceded defeat. Michael gets to run the ship and that might work. She is no more a maverick than Kirk and arguably Napoleon’s maxim about lucky generals applies here. Also, that whole Klingon war she started was a very long time ago now.

Lastly, what was that bit about “Cleveland Booker”? Dave Ajala’s character gets listed as Cleveland Booker but people call him Book and it’s clearly not a name from his own world. At the last minute we get a short mention of a ‘mentor’ with that name? Who knows! Regardless, best quote goes to Book who responds with righteous indignation to an insult to his cat “SHE IS A QUEEN!”

Honestly, this is what I needed this week. The good guys win, the bad guys got horrible Hans Gruberish deaths and the cute robot got repaired by Jett Reno.

6 thoughts on “Star Trek Discovery: That Hope is You – Part 2 (S3E13)

  1. The writing improved this season, except for the [tech] crap. I was impressed by how much of Doug Jones and Bill Irwin comes through the prosthetics – they are amazing physical actors.

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  2. Ah well, you posted your review just before I posted mine again. Otherwise, we pretty much agree that this was a good episode and a good season. Though I also hope that we get Saru (maybe with Su’Kal in tow) back next season.

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  3. I have yet to catch up (last episode watched was the Seed Ship ep), but your write up finally revealed to me that I still skim too much while reading. Having seen Olatunde Osunsanmi’s name many times while watching episodes, and indeed the first time I read it in your write up, my mind INSISTED on seeing his first name as Olatide. (I knew of an Olatide Ogunfiditimi when I worked at the University of Arizona). It took me clicking through on the link to IMDB AND coming back here before I realized I had his name wrong all this time.

    Weird how the mind works sometimes…

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  4. I thought the scenes on board the Kelpien ship were the strongest part of the episode, especially with Hugh immediately accepting Gray, hugging him and telling him they would find some way of bringing him back to be visible to everyone. (Although I’m thoroughly puzzled as to how even a 32nd-century hologram could have brought Gray to life in the first place. I know something’s odd in the fact that Adira can see him, but how would it follow that the Kelpien hologram program could pick him up as well? Is he some sort of Trill Force ghost?)

    And yeah, I’m also not overly thrilled about Michael getting the captain’s chair (and those horrid gray uniforms, baby-bump-concealing or not). In “Unification III” and “Forget Me Not,” Saru was shown to be developing into an outstanding captain, I thought. I’m sad that’s been taken away, at least for now.

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  5. It’s again the maverick is getting promoted… I guess it’s not yet sure if Doug Jones can come back for next season. He has some movies coming up according to IMDB, but I’m not sure how big his involvement is there. So probably they prepared it in a way where he can come back or not or just having cameos.

    It was a good episode, the turbolift scenes were cool, but absolutely ridiculous- but that’s a description of all good Discovery things.

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  6. It was overall good although Michael’s plan was confusingly complicated to follow and led me to think of Galaxy Quest and the huge things we must get through that should not be in a space ship during the turbo pods scenes. The holodeck scenes were also a little draggy in contrast to all the whiz bang action that was going on elsewhere.

    There is going to be a Season 4 of Discovery and Saru will be a part of the season. I was upset enough to look it up. I wasn’t thrilled that they did with Saru what they had earlier done with Nhan — escorting a kid to and going back to fix the home planet. However, narratively it did fit. I suspect that Jones, much in demand in Hollywood, needed to have a lighter schedule, so they have something cooked up for him. I was kind of amused that Discovery went with the uber traditional Trek plot of the super powerful child causing deliberately/accidentally havoc on the galaxy.

    Book screaming about his cat was indeed the highlight. When the baddie made the crack about Grudge, I was like, oh you’re dead now buddy. Book is essentially the Beastmaster of the show now. His name has been given as Cleveland Booker throughout the show and “Book” is his nickname, a shortening of his last name and because he likes to read. It is possible that he took the surname Booker because of a mentor, but that was a rather garbled speech about it, so who knows. They still haven’t really explained Booker’s farming people and why a few of them like himself are high powered empaths with wildlife.

    Adira is a human, not a trill, which is why when the symbiote was emergency put into her body after Gray’s death, she couldn’t access the other past hosts through the symbiote and was not a well kid. The symbiote contains the memories/personalities of the past joined hosts and communicates those to the new host and it can also transfer those consciousnesses into other bodies for the ritual of Zhian’tara. When they took her to the Trill planet and she went through the pool process to be able to access the memories of the past hosts through the symbiote, (which also allowed Michael’s consciousness to transfer into Adira’s,) somehow, possibly related to Adira being human, Gray’s consciousness was able to then project out of Adira, like in the ritual of Zhian’tara, except not into a mind/body. They haven’t figured out how that’s happening yet. The hologram program, able to scan minds, somehow picked out that consciousness of Gray’s that was separate from but within Adira and gave it a hologram energy body it could inhabit that others can see. (Logically, Gray’s body should also have been different than his own, like the others, but if there was a difference it wasn’t easily visible. Maybe that was too difficult since Gray doesn’t have an actual body.) The logical thing for them to do with Adira is to take her back now to the Trill planet, which has joined the Federation, and let them figure out what’s happening. But, the Trill might not like that it’s happening, as Gray mentioned, so Adira’s dads will probably try to figure it out themselves with the help of the handy neurologist they’ve just picked up from Osyraa.

    Michael’s plan to take out the magnets wasn’t meant to be a suicide mission for the bridge crew, but they figured out that it would end up being one because they didn’t have enough oxygen to get the bomb and needed equipment, get it planted and get out in time, due to the life support systems down. But that whole sequence, while beautifully acted by the cast, made no sense. They should have gone for spacesuits as well as weapons when they broke out, which would have given them a protected oxygen supply if the baddies shut down lifesupport. There should be more emergency oxygen cannisters than one in the areas of the SPACEship. And if they only had one oxygen cannister, then after getting the bomb together, only one crew member should have gone to plant the bomb, maximizing the amount of oxygen available to get in and out, or at most two — one to plant the bomb and the other to watch the bomb planter’s back. That’s what they eventually did, but only after they wasted the oxygen supply on six people instead of one. So I was torn between liking and not liking that sequence as it was not brilliant but sweet.

    I overall really liked the episode except that I did not like how Tilly renounces being number one/substitute captain. Obviously Michael was in charge and making Tilly number one in the first place made no sense story-wise, but Tilly was not a bad captain in the crisis — she led the bridge crew’s escape and such pretty well. She’s a competent number one. So her throwing up her hands and acting as if she’d failed in passing the baton Michael already had officially to Michael struck a sour note for me. They could have done it better, but so much was going on in the episode, they couldn’t spend much time on it, I guess.

    I am rather curious what they are going to do with Stamets next year. He hasn’t forgiven Michael, though I don’t think he hates her either, and since Book has joined the Federation crew under Michael as captain and can do the spore drive, Stamets and his family technically don’t need to stay on Discovery. (Although Book doesn’t understand how to maintenance and repair the spore drive, so maybe they would want Stamets and certainly Hugh to stay.) But technically, they could go to another ship, or make more spore drives for more ships, or whatever, so it will be interesting to see what they do.

    The first two seasons, my husband and I continually debated whether we were going to keep watching the show because it was a mix of stuff we liked and things that deeply annoyed us. We wanted to see what they would do this season, in the future time period, and while there are usual quibbles with various episodes, this ended up being my favorite season of the show.

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