People may enjoy the figurative aspects of this

I haven’t linked to former Sad Puppy outlet Mad Genius Club in a long while and nor have I discussed my compatriot Dave Freer’s unusual anecdotes for some time. I am a man of some restraint but when Dave literally loses his shit how can I not link to it?

The background is that he has hinted for some time about a bureaucratic dispute he is having with the local government of Flinders Island, where he lives (off the coast of Tasmania). In today’s column he provides the context and well, the punchlines write themselves that I will leave it to readers to pick their preferred ones.

“One of my current one is where the local council with the power vested in them by the state, are protecting my neighbor from our (two people’s worth) sewage treatment wastewater. I live on a farm, a long, long way from a neighbor and we are both well above the wastewater outlet. The chance of my wastewater getting to a neighbor… would take a Biblical flood. And beside the fact that the poor fellow would be far too busy building an ark to care – the dilution would be hundreds of billions to one. But that doesn’t stop the council extracting hundreds of dollars for doing nothing of any value, and forcing me to spend thousands of dollars to achieve absolutely nothing that I couldn’t for five hundred, and harassing the hell out of me. The designer, plumber, the seller of the specialized bits the designer mandated did give some degree of ‘value’ for their rent (back of an envelope – about the same as trad publishing – where the writer earns around 6-8% on that paperback, and 93-94% go to these other fellows). Of course I don’t actually need any of those, and could achieve the same without them, but their services and goods are worth something, just nothing like what I have to pay — because the government mandates I use them, and pure rent-seekers make sure I do.”

https://madgeniusclub.com/2021/01/04/besides-wood-chippers/

Yes, poor persecuted Dave is being oppressed by the government who are making the unreasonable demand that he (checks notes) deals with his own faecal matter properly. I…no, no, there are just too many metaphors here to choose.

30 thoughts on “People may enjoy the figurative aspects of this

  1. There’s a lot to learn here, like the unexpected possibility there are times when Dave is NOT full of it.

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  2. I didn’t realize conservatives wanted to go all the way back to the day when we just dump our waste in the stream for that guy downhill to deal with.

    Cue Blackadder:

    Mrs. Pants:
    But what about the privies?

    Blackadder:
    Um, well, what we are talking about in privy terms is the latest in front wall fresh air orifices combined with a wide capacity gutter installation below.

    Mrs. Pants:
    You mean you crap out the window?

    Blackadder:
    Yes.

    Mrs. Pants:
    Well in that case we’ll definitely take it. I can’t stand those dirty indoor things.

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  3. I was reading the comments (I know, my mistake) and came across one “joking” about lynching people.

    This is a “joke” I see often over at Hoyt’s blog.

    Sad Puppies sure love fantasizing about murdering those who disagree with them.

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    1. It’s not just the comments but also the title of the post. Consider also that this is aimed at a specific person – he doesn’t name them but Flinder’s Island has only about 1000 people on it and this is somebody in a specific role. So these aren’t nebulous threats about generic bureaucrats .

      He talks about them here as well https://madgeniusclub.com/2020/11/30/thinking-it-through/ basically threatening to include an unflattering description of them in a book.

      Honestly, if I was this person I’d be talking to the local police.

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    2. Sadly, it’s not just the puppies and other rightwingers anymore who are open fantasizing about murdering people they don’t like. You find it on the left as well, though thankfully it’s still rare.

      A few days ago, I came across a tweet by a leftwing New York Times journalist who openly fantasized about beating people who don’t wear masks to death. The journalist had apparently lost a relative to covid, so his grief and anger are understandable. But publicly fantasizing about beating people to death is wrong, regardless who does it.

      I reported the tweet just like I would report a tweet by a rightwinger who cheers about refugees drowning. Most likely, Twitter will ignore this report just like it ignored the ones about rightwingers fantasizing about murdering people.

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      1. I understand that the journalist is angry and grieving and he certainly has reason to be, unlike rightwingers fantasizing about killing refugees or the Mad Genii fantasizing about murdering Australian council officials. But “Don’t make death threats in a public medium” should be common sense.

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      2. Posed by a Leftie? It’ll be down so fast your eyebrows will be scorched. Jack lurves himself some suppression of leftists.

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      3. I think it is in some ways useful to fantasize, to joke, or to use hyperbole – but when there are people who say the same kind of things in earnest, when even the most over-the-top joke falls victim to Poe’s Law, it becomes necessary to be careful about what language one uses in public.

        Some people criticize “wokeness” for destroying humour. “Oh, we’re not allowed to joke about anything” these days. Well, no. The blames lies with the wingnuts who are indistinguishable from their own caricatures.

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  4. Friends of my parents used to live in an isolated farmhouse on the moors in the middle of nowhere. The house was too isolated to be connected to the public sewage system, so they had a sewage pit, which was cleaned out at regular intervals. I know this because my Dad was occasionally roped into helping out with that unenviable task.

    Approx. 20 years ago, the local council declared that the old sewage pit which had been in use at least since the family moved into the house sometime in the 1960s, probably longer, was no longer sufficient. A new one had to be dug with new equipment and extra regulations. It cost a lot of money and of course the owners of the house grumbled. But they did it, no longer had to clean out the bloody sewage pit and they never threatened to murder to official who required them to build a new sewage pit.

    Also, I don’t really get complaints about rent-seeking from self-declared libertarians. Because so-called “rent-seeking” is just capitalism. Someone charges for a good or service, because they have the right and ability to do so. You’d figure that libertarians would think that this is a good thing, unless they’re the ones paying.

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    1. Note that the internet infrastructure for Flinders island is heavily supported by public money. Freer gets to post because of Aussie tax payers. His healthcare? Well given his low income (based on what he says) he probably doesn’t earn enough to pay the medicare levy so…yeah that’s paid for by the rest of us. Government also subsidies the airstrip and the shipping of goods to island.

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    2. Cora, your dad is a true friend. I have friends who’d give me an organ before they’d help with a sewage pit.

      Rent-seeking is the very purest form of capitalism, basically unregulated in the US and similar places thanks to the right wing. Libertarians are all about the free market until it costs them money.

      Also, they probably have a real sewage system in over half of places called Aberdeen (I said I was never going to get tired of that reference).

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      1. Well, my Dad’s friend (who’s sadly gone now – he just lost the will to live, after he and his wife moved out of the farmhouse into a city apartment) also helped my parents a lot with their house, even though we don’t have a sewage pit.

        I have been to Aberdeen (the Scottish one) and can confirm that they have a functioning sewage system.

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      2. There are a few rural Aberdeens (named after the main one) that might not. But yes, the Scottish one has real sewage, at least the last time I was there.

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    3. My family has a summer place out at Christina Lake in southern British Columbia, Canada. Back when my grandparents bought the lot, you basically just dug a hole, made sure it didn’t go down to the water line, and built an outhouse over it. No road access, no electricity, no phone lines.

      Needless to say, as the lake became a much more popular vacation spot and the number of cabins went from about two dozen to over a hundred (around a glacial ‘finger’ lake that’s about 18km north to south and 1-2km east to west), that wasn’t sustainable. Since nobody’s going to spend the effort to actually extend a full sewage system around to the side of the lake that still doesn’t have road access or electricity, everybody was required to set set things up properly. So most people now make sure the pit is lined so it won’t leach out, and use composting supplements to break everything down. It’s not as if it’s a huge amount of extra work, though I’m not sure how actively it’s enforced.

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      1. Our cabin was just outside Manning Park (about 6 hours’ drive West along the same highway which goes past Christina Lake). When we built it in 1979, we had to install a full Septic field, and because the perc test went so poorly, the developer had to combine 4 lots into one. We therefore had a huge lot with lots of room for the very large septic field we needed to put in.

        Never once did my Dad ever consider killing anyone over having to do that.

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  5. Dave also ignores the salient facts that:

    1. Large portions of Australia and islands outwith tend to catch on fire every summer.
    2. Burnt areas get rained on the next winter.
    3. Said bare burnt areas shed rainwater like crazy.*
    4. Epic floods ensue — sometimes described as Biblical.

    You can bet Dave’s going to be the first to call the government when the flames or anything else come close to his house.

    *Thus the joke about the four seasons in Southern California: “earthquake, fire, mudslide, and drought” (or “pilot” for Los Angeles, in which case the proper calendrical order is “pilot, fire, earthquake, and mudslide”, all of which I can personally attest to).

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    1. I personally look forward to Dave’s eventual post about how he and his family bravely faced the deadly onrushing wildfire all by themselves, garden hoses in hand, with no help from anyone, much less the neighbor whose water is apparently threatened by Dave’s fecal output. It’ll be a classic of libertarian thought.

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  6. As a reporter, I have covered far too many disputes like this. One guy insisted he should have the right to let rainwater from his property flood the neighbor’s house or the street instead of having to build drainage ditches.

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    1. Drainage systems are mandated in Germany, but a lot of newly built houses ignore them and let the rainwater flow straight into the sewers, which tends to cause overflow. It’s a persistent problem.

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