Stray Popcorn Observations

Links to the other posts 1, 2, 3, 4

Some loose ends from yesterday’s post on the gazumping of ComicsGate:

  • I said that Vox Day had trademarked the term — I was incorrect. Actually, he is saying the term isn’t trademarkable (which isn’t exactly true either as he is using it as a brand for a set of products).
  • Ethan Van Sciver is threatening legal action against Vox Day as Van Sciver claims the term is his because he uses it as a name for some of his YouTube stuff.  That doesn’t sound like he’d get very far with any legal action.
  • Various rightwing social media “personalities” who have for years conveniently forgotten to mention that Vox Day supports violent extremism magically discovered this yesterday. ianmileschong
  • Yup, it’s remarkable how another movement that’s happy to have Vox Day and his supporters involved only suddenly spot his support for mass murderer once Day screws them over commercially.
  • And while we are indulging in the schadenfreude lets note that GamerGate, Sad Puppies, and now ComicsGate have each in turn had to distance themselves from Vox Day because of his action — yet the right of SF still thinks it was a terrible injustice that the SFWA expelled him. Every year that specific move by the SFWA looks smarter and smarter 🙂
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28 thoughts on “Stray Popcorn Observations

  1. I’m just now watching Great British Bake Off, and now you bake me a delicious schadenfreude pie. This much tasty dessert must be bad for me.

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    1. It’s Ted Beale in, “Racist nitwits discover that nihilist racist troll is even more awful than they are, once again, for the umpteenth time.”

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      1. A dumbass fascist sitcom. With one of those absolutely fake and annoying laugh tracks.

        @Mark-kitteh: And me on a post-Worldcon diet, too.

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  2. “Yup, it’s remarkable how another movement that’s happy to have Vox Day and his supporters involved only suddenly spot his support for mass murderer once Day screws them over commercially.”

    I don’t know what they’re worried about: Castalia House, Dark Lord Consulting, Infogalactic, Voxiversity, and Arkhaven haven’t exactly been financially successful ventures. Van Scrivner’s suing them is going to be like getting blood out of a turnip if he wins.

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    1. I guess VD could sell that neo-gothic throne-like chair from his dining room set that he likes to sitting in when he posts videos.

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      1. Maybe he WANTS to be sued, so he can close down money-losing Arkhaven and blame its failure on someone else.

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  3. I love it when Nazis discover that other Nazis are toxic. Pity they don’t seem to be able to make the connection though.

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  4. I’m unclear even on what legal theory Mr. Ethan Van Sciver believe would apply — to be polite about that. (To continue in that excessively genteel vein, I suspect neither does he.)

    Back in Pleistocene days (1990s), we regulars of Usenet antispam newsgroup net.admin.net-abuse.email (NANAE) — overwhelmingly SMTP-oriented system administrators — had a standing joke about ‘cartooneys’, i.e., we noted that spammers would continually enter our newsgroup blustering about how they were going to punish us all for daring to discuss their business enterprises as spamhauses, making copious references to the ferocity of their (strictly cartoon) attorneys (hence, cartooneys). Reading Mr. Van Sciver’s vague complaint made me nostalgic for NANAE.

    About the Anders Behring Breivik thing: Gosh, was it in 2015? Probably. Right about then, Mr. Beale replied to me about his editorial, being aware that I’m the son of a Norwegian immigrant (FYI, from a town totally destroyed by Luftwaffe firebombing), asserting to me that Norway would in the fullness of time celebrate Mr. Breivik as a hero. I politely demurred, not saying ‘when Hell freezes over’ because of course that happens. I don’t believe I even mentioned that there were more volunteers for Vidkun Quisling’s firing squad than there were openings, though it was on my mind. (The Norwegians so far have limited their revenge on Breivik to singing songs of tolerance he is known to hate outside his cell and, well, locking him away and saying they’ll consider his case sometime in the far distant future.

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      1. Thank you, good sir. I’ll keep an eye out for them. (I could bore you with accounts of recent Scandinavian cinema and television I think is particularly good, but in all likelihood you’re already aware.)

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    1. Rick, were those spammers always threatening you with law suites? That’s what most of them did back then. I always wondered if a law suite was a long piece of music about a lawyer, or a bunch of matching furniture in a law office. And they couldn’t even blame autocorrect back then.

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      1. Lurkertype: Oh yeah. Suffice to say, the art of mockery on NANAE was a well-honed skill, back in the day. There were some well-regarded parodies of spammer threats that probably still survive in Best of Usenet collections along with the immortal alt.Shrugged, in which yr. humble servant was an incidental character.

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  5. VD understands that conservatives and the far right are genrally very loyal to anyone that they think is on their side – “You dont critize one of us”!
    This is a perfect opening for VD to exploit.

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    1. Right. Maybe I’m seeing things that aren’t there, but Beale’s fiction, awful as it is, paints a picture of a dreadfully insecure, unhappy man who is aware on some level that he’s reduced himself into a sad parody of a human being, tied to causes that are awful. None of which means that he’s going to one day see the light, but it does produce a sort of rankling hollowness that makes him despise most of his supposed allies. And that results in the eternal cycle of backstabbing every cause he joins with and then declaring whatever tiny circle of followers he emerges with after the carnage is over the real true champions of Rightness.

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      1. His writing is tremendously revelatory of his inner state of mind. He projects, for everything. Once I figured out to look for that, all sorts of things about him started clicking into place.

        I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that he’s managed to antagonize another set of erstwhile allies. I’m rather curious as to how long it’ll take Chuck Dixon to casually move on to other opportunities. I don’t expect any kind of public blowup there, Dixon (from the very little I know, I’m not a comics connoisseur) seems too much of a professional for that, but I would be surprised if their association lasts more than five years total.

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    1. So… EVS came out with an inarticulate, incoherent, spittle-flecked rant? Oooooookay. I guess that might be funny, if you’ve never seen it happen before. 🙄

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