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Dragon Award Winners

I’m pulling these from Red Panda Fraction’s live tweeing:

They must have nimble little paws to tweet so swiftly.

Overall, largely unsurprising safe choices. Stray observations:

Best Science Fiction Novel: Artemis by Andy Weir
It Takes Death to Reach a Star by Gareth Worthington and Stu Jones
Persepolis Rising by James S.A. Corey
The Mutineer’s Daughter by Chris Kennedy and Thomas A. Mays
Win by Vera Nazarian
Sins of Her Father by Mike Kupari

Best Fantasy Novel (Including Paranormal): Oathbringer by Brandon Sanderson
Shoot the Messenger by Pippa DaCosta
War Hammer by Shayne Silvers
The Land: Predators by Aleron Kong
The Traitor God by Cameron Johnston
A Tempered Warrior by Jon R. Osborne

Best Young Adult / Middle-Grade Novel: Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi
Cold Bath Street by A.J. Hartley
A Court of Frost and Starlight by Sarah J. Maas
When Tinker Met Bell by Alethea Kontis
Brightly Burning by Alexa Donne
Warcross by Marie Lu

Best Military Science Fiction or Fantasy Novel: A Call to Vengeance by David Weber, Timothy Zahn, and Thomas Pope
Communications Failure by Joe Zieja
Points of Impact by Marko Kloos
Ghost Marines: Integration by Jonathan P. Brazee
Price of Freedom by Craig Martelle and Michael Anderle
Legend by Christopher Woods

Best Alternate History Novel: Uncharted by Kevin J. Anderson and Sarah A. Hoyt
Dark State by Charles Stross
The Sea Peoples by S.M. Stirling
Witchy Winter by D.J. Butler
Dream of the Iron Dragon by Robert Kroese
Minds of Men by Kacey Ezell

Best Media Tie-In Novel: Leia: Princess of Alderaan by Claudia Gray
Before the Storm by Christie Golden
Phasma by Delilah S. Dawson
Fear Itself by James Swallow
Legacy of Onyx by Matt Forbeck
Desperate Hours by David Mack

Best Horror Novel: Sleeping Beauties by Stephen King and Owen King
Beneath the Lighthouse by Julieanne Lynch
Meddling Kids by Edgar Cantero
A Time to Run by Mark Wandrey
The Cabin at the End of the World by Paul Tremblay
Glimpse by Jonathan Maberry

Best Comic Book: Mighty Thor by Jason Aaron and James Harren, Marvel Comics
Doomsday Clock by Geoff Johns and Gary Frank, DC Comics
Aliens: Dead Orbit by James Stokoe, Dark Horse Comics
Mister Miracle by Tom King and Mitch Gerads, DC Comics
Saga by Brian K. Vaughn and Fiona Staples, Image Comics
Star Wars: Darth Vader by Charles D. Soule and Giuseppe Camuncoli, Marvel Comics

Best Graphic Novel: Brandon Sanderson’s White Sand Volume 1 by Brandon Sanderson, Rik Hoskin, and Julius M. Gopez, Dynamite Entertainment
Chicago Typewriter: The Red Ribbon by Brandon Fiadino, Djibril Morissette-Phan, and James Greatorex, Dark Legion Comics
Be Prepared by Vera Brosgol
Monstress Vol. 2: The Blood by Marjorie M. Liu, Sana Takeda, Image Comics
Vision (The Vision) by Tom King, Gabriel Hernandez Walta, Marvel Comics
Paper Girls Volume 4 by Brian K. Vaughn and Cliff Chiang, Image Comics

Best Science Fiction or Fantasy TV Series: Game of Thrones, HBO
The Expanse, Syfy
Lucifer, Fox
Supernatural, CW
Star Trek: Discovery, CBS All Access
Altered Carbon, Netflix
Stranger Things, Netflix

Best Science Fiction or Fantasy Movie: Black Panther directed by Ryan Coogler
Incredibles 2 directed by Brad Bird
Thor: Ragnorok directed by Taika Waititi
Blade Runner 2049 directed by Denis Villeneuve
Avengers: Infinity War directed by Anthony Russo and Joe Russo
Ready Player One directed by Steven Spielberg
Deadpool 2 directed by Dave Leitch

Best Science Fiction or Fantasy PC / Console Game: Middle-earth: Shadow of War by Monolith Productions
Fortnite by Epic Games
Cuphead by Studio MDHR
Destiny 2 by Bungie
Battletech by Harebrained Schemes
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus by MachineGames

Best Science Fiction or Fantasy Mobile Game: Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery by Jam City
Planescape: Torment, the Enhanced Edition by Beamdog
Nocked! by Andrew Schneider
Lineage 2: Revolution by Netmarble
Final Fantasy XV: Pocket Edition by Square Enix

Best Science Fiction or Fantasy Board Game: Red Dragon Inn 6: Villains by Slugfest Games
Rising Sun by CMON Games
When I Dream by Asmodee
Mysterium: Secrets and Lies Expansion by Asmodee
Azul by Plan B Games
Photosynthesis by Blue Orange

Best Science Fiction or Fantasy Miniatures / Collectible Card / Role-Playing Game: Magic: The Gathering Unstable by Wizards of the Coast
Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition by Games Workshop
Force and Destiny Role-playing Game: Knights of Fate by Fantasy Flight Games
Bubblegumshoe – RPG by Evil Hat
Cooking with Dice: The Acid Test by Oddfish Games
D100 Dungeon by Martin Knight

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43 responses to “Dragon Award Winners”

  1. Unsurprising choices, as you say. The Adeyemi is an excellent YA fantasy released in early 2018 that I’d be surprised not to see in the Norton and Lodestar lists next year.

    Nice to see some love for Claudia Gray’s Leia as well: now Carrie Fisher is no longer with us, she’s basically the only person I trust with the character…

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  3. In most cases the winner is the one (or one of two) that seemed to me to have the most mainstream popularity. As that seems to be what they’re going for, then that’s a good result for them. Also looks like they’ve tried to up their game in terms of presenters etc.

    I suspect that at nominations stage they’ll now see a slow climb in those types of books crowding out the ones there via publicity campaigns.

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  4. Bah. That Harry Potter mobile game is both slow and boring. Can’t understand how it could have won anything.

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  6. Enjoyed Children of Blood and Bone – it wasn’t one of my nominees for the Hugo Award (I picked In Other Lands by Sarah Rees Brennan) but it is a quality choice and I look forward to the sequel.

    And I find the crazy amount of categories in the Dragon Awards silly, but I’m happy to see Leia, Princess of Alderaan take the media tie-in award: it’s the only new canon Star Wars book I’ve really enjoyed, telling a story that wasn’t once told in the prior “Legends” EU, and is a great example of how a prequel using established characters can work (as opposed to the Solo movie). It’s also not a book I’d expect the puppy crowd to enjoy, so kind of surprising.

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    • @Garik16

      Children of Blood and Bone was published in early 2018, so it couldn’t have made this year’s Hugo ballot anyway. (Although I’ve got my eye on it for next year.)

      If I remember correctly, this is because the Dragons have that odd July-to-July (I think) eligibility period.

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  8. Man, those are incredibly predictable. You could take someone who knows hardly anything about the genre and they could have guessed it. Damn dull. I know practically nothing about gaming of any sort, and I predicted those winners.

    Other than the YA, which looks promising, and I’m glad for the Leia book and Black Panther.

    They have so many categories already, I’m not sure why there isn’t a separate one for Paranormal. Too girly?

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    • They only have categories for the sort of subgenres Baen/nutty nuggets fans like. Hence, epic fantasy, urban fantasy and paranormal romance have to share a category, while military SF and alternate history (are there even enough alt history books published every year to fill all slots?) get their own categories. Space opera also doesn’t get its own category, even though it’s bigger than military SF, let alone alternate history. And post-apocalyptic got deleted, when N.K. Jemisin was nominated and declined once too often.

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  9. What the nominations for the Dragons in their third year told us was that the Puppy contingent still did have the sympathies of the organizers and was able to do enough of a voting block for some nominations — or the organizers pumped up whatever votes they did get since the organizers decide. But they also saw their clubhouse invaded by self-pub authors who have organized networks in Kindle Unlimited this year, as well as some best-selling, known authors. So they weren’t able to get the in-roads they managed the first two years any more. The organizers did not go that far against likely voting tallies.

    While some best-selling authors may have withdrawn their nominations upon being notified, they still got a solid group of big name authors to agree to stay on the ballot. Given that this was the first year that the Dragons actually asked permission of the authors to have them on the ballot, rather than shoving them on it without their consent like in the previous two years, that’s a good sign for the Dragons and incentive for DragonCon to continue the awards and transition them past their origins.

    So what the nominations told us is that the organizers are trying to mainstream the award but also didn’t try to totally ditch the influx of organized self-pubs working the voting blocks, at least for the nominations. And as we know, the organizers then choose who wins the awards, though they are influenced by the voting. What the winners tell us is that the organizers definitely want this to be a respectable, mainstream award that DragonCon won’t grow tired of and are going for the biggest PR bang (which is not at all a criticism of the winners — all fine project and writers — but simply commentary on the evolution of the award regarding the people involved with it at the convention and their weird rules and policies for the awards.)

    All of the book winners of original work are major best-selling authors, well known to likely voters and highly visible. They likely did win large parts of the votes, even if the organizers didn’t strictly follow the votes. Some of them are conservative/conservative-leaning, and so Puppy voting did probably play a small part in the organizers’ decisions, though again more in getting them nominations, but the main choices are the biggest names from major publishers. In SF, Weir’s was the biggest book of the nominees, followed by the Corey entry, but the latter is within the middle of a series while Weir’s was a standalone, thus drawing likely more votes, attention and logical choice potential. (And it tips to Weir’s beginnings as a self-pub. Plus Corey won last year, so switching it up made sense.) In fantasy, Sanderson was the biggest name by far of the nominees, plus he’s been an acceptable choice to the Puppy contingent in the past so probably got their vote block.

    The Puppies have little interest in YA/Middle Grade, so that ballot ended up being two well-knowns from the self-pub contingent and four major bestsellers from big publishers. Adeyemi’s work was the biggest YA novel of the year, buzzed and media covered and having the big movie deal, etc. Miltary SF went to David Weber again, and again Weber was the biggest name in the category. Weber is also, thanks to his recent efforts at ConCarolinas, a liked candidate by the Puppies. Likewise, Kevin J. Anderson was one of the biggest names in the Alt. History category, and again appealing to Puppies/Baen contingent, especially given Hoyt’s co-authoring. Stirling and Stross were both other possibilities, but the organizers seemed to have kept this one in Puppy territory for now. Best Horror, though, went to Stephen King, mega-phenom, flaming liberal and the biggest name by far and away in that category.

    In media tie-in, it went to the Star Wars work that was with the older character, so biggest, most established franchise there. (I guess the Dragon Award organizers don’t feel that Star Wars is dying.) In graphic novel, again the most established franchise, Thor, picked up the award. Best Movie really didn’t have anything for the Puppies and the biggest franchise won. Same for most of the game awards. This is the sort of spread one would expect to see in a popular vote award. While it might seem as if these are “safe” choices — i.e. dull — they really are ambitious choices — with ambition to vault the Dragon Awards into again a more mainstream, recognized and accepted award instead of a bone thrown towards Baen authors and Puppies as much as possible with the occasional diversion.

    So what this can tell us is that:

    A) The Red Panda Faction’s vocal protest and pressure to make the awards less conservative clubhouse and more fairly involved with DragonCon has had an impact. (Way to go, Red Panda Faction!) Their continued efforts will further mainstream the awards and might get DragonCon to start doing some decent promotion of the awards to the convention itself.

    B) DragonCon runners definitely did pressure the organizers of the awards to improve the respectability and mainstream appeal of the awards. So even though the Dragon Awards are still run like a drunken uncle on a bender at Thanksgiving dinner, they are making efforts to clean things up. But transparency is maybe still several years away.

    C) The Puppies might have been able to hold on to parts of their clubhouse on nominations for longer, but the well organized self-pub KU authors are grabbing slots. Other interested groups are now paying more attention to the Dragons. Which means that Puppies may have to be content only with some of the bestselling authors they like getting awards and nominations as time goes on.

    Since all the Dragons are for novels and major commercial entertainment projects, rather than smaller markets like short fiction or art, the biggest names are going to continue to win. And seeing that award winners are solidly within the field, other major authors are going to be less likely to withdraw their nominations. This is actually good news for Puppies who got nominations and wins in the past two years as to the value of those, but it also means the clubhouse is pretty much lost to them. Self-pub authors who are best-sellers also have a shot at the awards; it won’t be just a big six fest, but best known will get the most votes and be also who the organizers are most inclined to pick.

    Will the organizers stop deciding who wins and go to a popular vote accounting policy? That will be an interesting issue in future Dragon Awards. For now, it looks like DragonCon will be reasonably satisfied with the awards and continue them.

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    • Kat Goodwin: So what this can tell us is that: A) The Red Panda Faction’s vocal protest and pressure to make the awards less conservative clubhouse and more fairly involved with DragonCon has had an impact. (Way to go, Red Panda Faction!) Their continued efforts will further mainstream the awards and might get DragonCon to start doing some decent promotion of the awards to the convention itself.

      This is a nice thought, and it’s good that the Red Panda Fraction is trying to get the Dragon Awards to up their game, but there’s no evidence whatsoever that the RPF’s actions have had an impact. They may have — but if so, there’s no way to tell.

      Until the Dragon Awards 1) start sending e-mails to every DragonCon member encouraging them to nominate and vote, 2) fix their system so it’s genuinely one-person, one nomination/vote, and 3) change their T&C from Sweepstakes rules to legitimate award rules which state that the finalists will be those with the most nominations and the winners will be those with the most votes, actual credibility for the awards will be missing.

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      • JJ is right. We tried various Get Out The Vote strategies, mainly by letting people know through social media when voting opened, but there is no way of knowing if any of that had an impact. I wonder if within the tracks people were doing the same. The emails from DragonCon reminding people to vote once they registered was a nice change that I don’t remember for last year.

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      • More votes and nominations are a good thing in general, if only to drown out the eager self-promoters, whether puppies or KU writers.

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      • I wasn’t talking about impact on the voting, because as we know, the voting largely doesn’t matter except as a varying influence on the award organizers’ decisions. The award is not a credible award; it’s not even really an award yet. It’s a PR campaign. But PR campaigns can be influenced, especially when they want to be seen as a real award.

        The Red Panda Faction’s influence wasn’t in actually getting out the vote, but in them TRYING to get out the vote among DragonCon attendees. They are a vocal, visible group of DragonCon attendees and fans of the con, reaching out to other attendees to publicize the awards as part of the convention, complaining that the awards are not properly engaging and publicizing to the attendees, are rigged and lacking in credibility and need to be a more visible, better run part of the convention. They are tweeting the awards ceremony. They are keeping public tabs on what the award organizers are doing, etc.

        This makes them an irritant problem for DragonCon administrators who don’t care about the Dragon Awards but did agree to put the convention name on them, which does make them officially part of the convention. So they would prefer not to have media coverage that highlights that the Dragon Awards aren’t credible, are rigged, aren’t really part of DragonCon and of interest to their attendees, etc. It looks, mildly, bad. It’s bad PR that helps make the Dragon Awards less valuable and therefore less of a monetizing asset to the convention. So that goes into the basket of irritants that causes DragonCon administrators to tell Dragon Award organizers to clean up their act. The more visibility and pressure Red Panda Faction brings, the more pressure on the organizers to at least steer the awards towards more mainstream choices for appearance’s sake.

        So the Red Panda Faction’s efforts had impact. Not necessarily the central impact, as the organizers were already begging big name authors hated by the Puppies to stay on the ballot last year, but every little bit helps. The organizers did make a slapdash attempt at alerting some voters to vote this year, which may in part have involved the RPF’s efforts. The organizers picked mainstream, big name winners and tried not to over favor Baen too much, etc. You know the line in the song from “Hamilton” — “history has its eyes on you”? Red Panda Faction are bringing the eyes, or sunlight as you prefer. The more publicity (and criticism of their methods) the Dragon Awards get, the more the organizers have to try not to make the results look embarrassing and rigged, even if they still are. The more the organizers want to have PR legitimacy and have more big authors stay on the ballot, the more they have to deal with convention groups like Red Panda Faction and the issues that are being raised. And the more pressure the DragonCon administrators will put on the Dragon Awards to do better PR and policies so that they don’t have to deal with this crap, etc.

        That doesn’t mean that the Dragon Awards are going to change into credible policies next year. But they’ll inch that way. They are already going that way in who they picked as winners and allowed as nominees. The awards are already shifting as an enterprise. And DragonCon can put more pressure on them and change the rules — and change the organizers — at any time. So Red Panda Faction is sand in the oyster and good for them.

        As for the KU folk, I think their efforts are overall going to be kind of positive. They are too late to create their own clubhouse out of these awards even if they managed to vote block enough to be given nominations this year. But they brought voters whom the organizers couldn’t ignore and busted up the original clubhouse. And it’s good for the Dragon Awards to include prominent self-pubs as nominees and winners going forward in the years when votes will start counting more. The whole situation at KU may fall apart when Amazon gets tired of it, but in the meantime, self-pub is part of books at DragonCon and their entries are better than the Puppies’.

        So the award is evolving and the winners probably made DragonCon administrators relatively happy this year so they’ll continue the awards. More authors are willing to participate, (which is bad news for the Puppies.) Eventually, the Dragon Awards are likely to become real, credible awards just from sheer PR momentum, likely with a change of organizers. Red Panda Faction contributed to that pressure and should be acknowledged for their efforts, I think. Their goal has always made sense — the Dragon Awards are meant to be awards of DragonCon and so the attendees of DragonCon should definitely be more involved. And the more that they are, the less clubhousing the organizers can have and not have problems with the PR.

        How long it takes — that’s the speculation game. It seemed to be moving quite fast last year. This year, not so fast maybe but definitely forward and with a very careful eye of the organizers on the winners. Will year four be the big shift or will it be, you know, year ten? The more irritant Red Panda Faction provides with visible accounting and publicization to the convention, that contributes to the pressure to adapt the award.

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    • We have at last 3 female winners in Tomi Adeyemi and Claudia Gray and Sarah A. Hoyt (not that I am happy about the last one), so it is better than last year at last. But that award is very male that is true (can be because of the voitingsystem, in three weeks you vote for that what you know, and works from men have still more puplicity than work from women I am afraid).

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  11. In the best gantasy / Sf boardgame category, the winner was on of the two fantasy/SF boardgames. Thats good, right?

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  12. Some of you seem haunted by “puppies.” Everywhere you look – you see puppies. Everything can be explained – by puppies. Puppies either win (boo) or lose (yea!). But the puppies are everywhere!

    Instead, you maybe, just maybe should actually read the nominees in the various categories and draw your thoughts from that. Projecting your “SF/F political views” into every winner is pretty strange.

    Both the military history category and the alt-history category winners were pretty understandable if you look at the reviews and discussions by those who actually read in these genres.

    But if you want to inject politics into actual award voting – look no farther than the Hugos for the past couple of years. The winners are disproportionally female to a remarkable degree. Perhaps they were the best entries. Perhaps they were good entries and had political backing. Perhaps it was pure political voting by enough of a tiny < 2,500 voter pool to swing the results. There is a much stronger statistical case that politics are causing the Hugo results recently than for the Dragons.

    I've not read the Hugo entries for this year so I have no first hand knowledge. But a lack of first hand knowledge of books in the Dragon categories is not stopping many of you from drawing whatever a priori conclusions you wished to have.

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    • Suddenly a wild troll appears!

      Unfortunately it doesn’t have anything to say that isn’t old talking points or projection, so I’m not biting.

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    • I didn’t see anybody saying that the wins for David Weber and co-authors or KJA and Sarah Hoyt were unreasonable, since Weber and KJA are very popular authors, even if I have zero interest in their books.

      By the way, I also read military SF on occasion. However, I prefer the works of Yoon Ha Lee, Elizabeth Bonesteel and Rachel Bach to David Weber and nominated accordingly.

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      • Weber is just so repetitive and dull nowadays. If I’m looking for “tough woman soldier with non-human sidekick ROOLZ”, I’m going with Mike Shepherd’s Kris Longknife. Mike’s on panels at cons run by those scary Bay Area SJWs all the time; him speaking at one of them is why I started reading his books. They don’t screech to a halt to be didactic, either (although Mike’s conservative), and they’re just average-book-size. He’s also written books in the same universe about people other than Kris (her grandma, her frenemy, a different soldier).

        Even sticking with Baen, Elizabeth Moon’s more interesting than Weber.

        Yoon is SO GOOD, and I also like Bonesteel, and R.M. Meluch (though she hasn’t written milSF in a few years IIRC). Marko Kloos does the pew-pew good too. Jack Campbell is a steady producer, and so forth.

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      • Oh yes, I forgot R.M. Meluch and Elizabeth Moon. Tanya Huff has a good military SF series as well and then there’s Susan R. Matthews, who’s even a Baen author. Marko Kloos is a good guy by all accounts (and a former countryman), though his books don’t do it for me. My fault, not his, because for some reason I had expected something like the Bundeswehr portions in Sven Regener’s “Neue Vahr Süd”, only in space, and that’s not what those books are at all.

        I do have the first Kris Longknife book waiting on Mount Tsundoku somewhere. Maybe I should move it closer to the top.

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        • @Cora and @Lurkertype —

          Kloos — Coincidentally, I read the first Kloos book just a couple of days ago. I wouldn’t call it wonderful, but it intrigued me enough that I’ll be reading book 2.

          Huff — I liked Valor’s Choice. 🙂

          Moon — Sadly, I tried Sheepfarmer’s Daughter (yeah, I know, not sf) and was bored stiff.

          Campbell — Ehh. Dauntless was okay, but I wasn’t inspired to run out and get book 2.

          Haven’t tried Longknife yet!

          Weber — I metaphorically threw the first Honor Harrington across the room when Honor was first described as carrying a 30-pound, three-foot-long cat-creature ON HER SHOULDERS as a normal occurrence. Yeah, no. OTOH, I’ve had a lot of fun reading the Weber/Ringo Prince Roger books.

          Ringo — dnfed the only one I tried. I didn’t find it offensive, just boring.

          Haven’t tried Bonesteel or Meluch or Matthews. Must look them up.

          Bujold, people! Where’s the Vorkosigan love?? Baen! Maybe just not mil enough to count?

          And Yoon Ha Lee! Yoon Ha Lee! Yoon Ha Lee! 🙂

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          • I loved Bonesteel’s Central Corps trilogy. I’m hoping to see more epic space adventures from her.

            I also loved Moon’s Vatta’s War and Vatta’s Peace books. I’ve just gotten hold of her 7-book Familias Regnant series, and am looking forward to digging into that.

            I’ve also got WJW’s new Praxis book and Yoon Ha Lee’s latest Machineries of Empire book here, but all of these books are having to wait until I finish Robert Jackson Bennett’s Foundryside. I’m about 10% in, and enjoying it so far. I’m still so sad and disappointed that The Divine Cities came in 6th for Best Series. That indicates that a lot of people didn’t get to experience those books, which is a shame.

            I thought Huff had only done fantasy. I will have to check out her Confederation of Valor series. And I’ve seen Meluch recommended so much, I really have to get to her books at some point.

            Kloos sounds like a great guy, based on his reaction to being shanghai’ed by the Puppies and everything I’ve seen from him on social media since then. Regrettably, based on their synopses, his books don’t appear to be My Thing.

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            • @JJ —

              Thanks for those book suggestion. And I love all the Machineries of Empire books. 🙂

              Coincidentally, Elizabeth Moon and Sarah Addison **just** published a new long novella/short novel (listed at 190 pages) — pub date 9/4/18. It’s listed as a historical LGBT mystery, and of course I had to download it instantly. 🙂

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            • Oh yes, new Praxis is good news. I’m trying to catch up on some short fiction for a while before I read any more novels though.
              Enjoy Foundryside – I did!

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      • Oh yes, I completely forgot about Walter Jon Williams, though he definitely belongs on this list.

        Robert Jackson Bennett doesn’t really do it for me, since I cared neither for Divine Cities nor for his earlier urban fantasy. Though I might still enjoy Foundryside.

        Marko Kloos’ books don’t interest me either, but then not every book has to be for me.

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    • Airboy: Some of you seem haunted by “puppies.” Everywhere you look – you see puppies. Everything can be explained – by puppies. Puppies either win (boo) or lose (yea!). But the puppies are everywhere!

      Given how vocal Puppies continue to be with their anti-“SJW” rhetoric and their claims of being oppressed by people who like different books than they do, it’s pretty hard not to notice Puppies when they pop up. I’m sorry if it hurts your fee-fees when people point out that they’re Puppies, but……. no, actually, I’m not sorry. You just need to get over your delicate sensibilities of being hurt when people point out the obvious. 🙄

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      • JJ – You have a weird obsession that I find hilarious. Please continue – it makes me happy.

        PS – Believing that a marketer is “oppressed” by a free market is bizarre. But please continue, it makes me smile.

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        • airboy; PS – Believing that a marketer is “oppressed” by a free market is bizarre. But please continue, it makes me smile.

          Well, yes, but that is, unfathomably, what Puppies believe. I agree that it’s bizarre. You need to talk to them about it, not to me.

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    • As for the poor menz being supposedly shut out of the Hugos, first of all there were plenty of men, several of them even straight and white, nominated for the Hugo Awards in the past two years. They just didn’t win, because there were a lot of excellent finalists to choose from and the Hugo voters happened to vote for others. What is more, while the Dragons are ompletely opaque, the Hugos always publish their voting and nomination tallys, so you can see how many people voted for what and which works just missed a nomination. And if you look at the data for 2018, you’ll see that “The Collapsing Empire” by John Scalzi, a book by a male author, finished in second place behind N.K. Jemisin’s “The Stone Sky” (which was the big favourite) in the best novel category. If you look at the nomination tallys, you’ll also see this year’s Dragon Award winner for best science fiction novel, “Artemis” by Andy Weir, on the longlist, while Brandon Sanderson, this year’s Dragon Award winner for best fantasy novel, was nominated for best series, but lost out to Lois McMaster Bujold.

      Also, while we’re on the subject of gender, it’s worth noting that the Dragon Awards rather odd category system privileges subgenres like military SF and alternate history, which have many male authors, while subgenres dominated by women authors such as urban fantasy, paranormal romance, space opera and science fiction romance are lumped into the mega categories of best science fiction and best fantasy.

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